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302 Days Left...

...until Election Day here in the U.S., and tomorrow is New Hampshire's primary. CNN is reporting that Obama currently has a double digit lead over Clinton in New Hampshire. I'm pretty interested to see how things will pan out for both parties tomorrow and I wonder how different the results will be, if at all, from Iowa's. I'm a bit curious how everyone on my flist stands, politics wise, so it's poll time!

Poll #1117073 Politics Poll!

Are you a registered voter?

No, but I plan to be by November '08
No, and I do not plan to be by November '08
I don't live in the US

What political party do you identify with?

Not sure

Do you consider yourself...

Extremely liberal
Somewhat liberal
Somewhat conservative
Extremely conservative
Not sure

Who would you like to win the 2008 Presidental election?

Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Rudy Giuliani
Mike Gravel
Mike Huckabee
Duncan Hunter
Dennis Kucinich
John McCain
Barack Obama
Ron Paul
Bill Richardson
Mitt Romney
Fred Thompson
Not sure

Also, I took the Presidential Matching Quiz and my results are here
89% Barack Obama
88% John Edwards
88% Hillary Clinton
85% Chris Dodd
81% Bill Richardson
80% Joe Biden
72% Mike Gravel
71% Dennis Kucinich
55% Rudy Giuliani
46% John McCain
37% Mitt Romney
36% Mike Huckabee
29% Tom Tancredo
23% Fred Thompson
13% Ron Paul

2008 Presidential Candidate Matching Quiz

I know politics can be sensitive issue, so while I encourage debate in comments if people want, please attack the issue and not the person. Also, I promise open-mindedness on my part as well. Later, skaterz.


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Jan. 7th, 2008 05:36 pm (UTC)
Yay, Obama! He's an amazing speaker. I went to a rally he had back in April and that was what cemented my decision to vote for him. He's doing well right now, and I hope he keeps on doing well until he gets to the White House!
Jan. 7th, 2008 05:45 pm (UTC)
Have you read The Audacity of Hope? If you haven't, you should. That's what solidified my vote.
Jan. 7th, 2008 05:51 pm (UTC)
I haven't yet, but I do want to sometime. It's good, I assume. ;)
Jan. 7th, 2008 05:46 pm (UTC)
I feel like such an outcast...
Jan. 7th, 2008 05:50 pm (UTC)
Well, have faith that livejournal, particularly my flist, are not representative of the US population. (Unfortuantely.) ;)
Jan. 9th, 2008 01:45 am (UTC)
I agree. There have to be more conservatives out there somewhere...
Jan. 7th, 2008 08:43 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry. I had to put Not Sure when asked what party I identify with, because I don't identify with the Democrat party.

I identify with the Democratic party.

This is important, because George W. Bush is the one calling us the Democrat party, incorrectly, and I don't wish to condone his alterations to the English language. I've already caught myself using the word "misunderestimate" without irony, and that scares me.
Jan. 7th, 2008 08:55 pm (UTC)
Duly noted.
Jan. 7th, 2008 09:43 pm (UTC)
It's a toss up for me between Hillary and Obama. I know relatively little about the current politics of everyone, and since I despise politics with the burning passion of a hundred thousand suns, I have trouble with sitting still long enough to learn about it.

I know enough to cast my vote, but once you get into the details, it's all half-truths and lies anyway, no matter what the candidate.

I think I'm a registered Democrat, but I put "not sure" because the political parties are more alike than different in too many ways for me to draw a firm distinction between them (this is not to say that the individual POLITICIANS are all alike, but there's a reason I'm in psychology and not sociology).
Jan. 7th, 2008 10:01 pm (UTC)
I clicked "not sure" for presidential, because "I don't like any of them and will write in my preferred candidate out of spite" was not an option. :-P (I do not advocate any of the current contenders as an appropriate choice for the office, for a variety of reasons.)

I clicked "independent" because I am party-free. However, I am currently registered as a Democrat because I re-registered during the CT Democratic primary last year and voted during that orgy of insanity. I'm going to have to re-register before November anyway, and will register in my new place-of-habitation as independent/unaffiliated.
Jan. 8th, 2008 12:20 am (UTC)
I still need to register here (I know, I'm lazy).

At home, I was registered as a Republican, because you had to pick a party to be able to vote in primaries (some states, anyway, don't require that) and I figured if I could maybe contribute to the choice for candidates I was more likely to not like, then I'd hopefully have a better decision come actual election time. If that makes sense.

I may register as independent here, after I check out how it works. I'm sort of libertarian... I'm very, very socially liberal, but in some ways I'm fiscally conservative. I actually wouldn't mind living in a socialist country, but since the rest of the US is unlikely to pick that, I don't think it's necessarily the best thing to vote for.

In some ways I really hate the two-party system.

Also, while I like Obama, I'm not 100% convinced that he's the best possible choice to be president right now. I'd originally hoped he was going to be president in 2016.
Jan. 8th, 2008 12:35 am (UTC)
Re: Obama -- I agree. I'm not sure he's got the political chops right now, but given another term, he might be my pick.
Jan. 8th, 2008 02:42 am (UTC)
Just a friendly helper of sorts...
A Libertarian point of view is one of personal responsibility and anti-government influence (read: opposite of socialism where government has total control of your life and redistributes your wealth "evenly").

And if I may ask, what is your motivation to work hard or to earn a better living if it just gets taken from you and redistributed? I can see that just producing a lot of people doing as little as possible with their hands out (read: the abusers of our current welfare system).

Thanks and I welcome all "bashing"

Jan. 8th, 2008 02:48 am (UTC)
I know what Libertarianism is... sorry my comment was confusing. What I meant to say was, at least from afar, I admire the Europeans for having more socialist societies, but I'm not sure it'd work in the US, given the history here, which is why I think I'd vote Libertarian.

I have to think about motivation more... I'll get back to you.
Jan. 8th, 2008 02:57 am (UTC)
sorry about that I guess I didn't read it how you intended.

Thanks for the reply though

Jan. 8th, 2008 03:18 am (UTC)
Hey, no problem, I'm sure my original comments could have been confusing, because I posted them pretty quickly and didn't really take the time to re-read for clarity.
Jan. 8th, 2008 03:17 am (UTC)
I think socialism, if it's working, is more about investment in society. Because part of the Republican mindset, at least in the past (I was a history major in college, but I studied Europe much more than the US), was that taxes were low but individuals gave a lot to charity, which then solved problems.

The thing is, I don't think that's working right now. Many things would never get done if they had to happen with donations. I like that the government covers education, and police. I wish the government had enough money to cover more education (college costing less, for example) and roadwork (no more tolls) and all firemen (the fact that some are volunteers is scary, to me). And I'd like universal healthcare. Frankly, some people not having health insurance is stupid, and really rather unnecessary.

I also remember when the government was trying to pass the flat tax awhile back, which I think was really very stupid... at a certain point in time, someone making a lot of money can just afford to give back a bigger percentage of their earnings. I think that goes along with how I don't really like the huge differences in earnings between someone at the very top and someone at the very bottom. Personally I think jobs should be paid based on how much they're valued in society, which is hard to judge, yes, but for example, teachers should be getting more money, in my opinion. But they're paid by local governments, who can't always afford to raise taxes. Whereas I think professional athletes, or entertainers, who are making millions... are their jobs really harder than teachers? I'm not a teacher. I would never want to be a teacher. But I think, based on the influence teachers have on the future of society, that they should get more money.

I think, also, I wouldn't say that all that many people are abusing the welfare system. Lots of people who need welfare can't get it at all. I think we need some welfare reform for sure. I'm not sure how to go about that. I don't personally have a problem with paying higher taxes for more benefit back, but I know a lot of people do.

If I knew the answers, I'd run for office. I don't think socialism would work in the US because of the founding principles of this government, at least not right now, but I do think it could be beneficial.
Jan. 8th, 2008 04:26 am (UTC)
Socialism FTW!
Good quiz: http://www.okcupid.com/politics

I am generally in the lower right quadrant, but once or twice I've taken it and been at the very end of democrat nestled right between socialist and totalitarian.

When I was younger I'm pretty sure I took a politics quiz that said I was a fascist. lol
Jan. 8th, 2008 01:49 am (UTC)
I can't in good conscience for for Obama. In my opinion, the country is so totally screwed up right now that we need someone with experience in dealing with the last Bush's messes. Maybe in the future, but it has to be someone with experience right now.

And I refuse to vote for Edwards after listening him on that MTV/Myspace thing. His idealism was actually terrifying to me, because if he goes in with those, he'll never get anything done. Politicians have to scratch each other's back, even if I get pissed about it. It's a fact of life. And saying "Well, I'll cut off their health care until they pass universal" won't fly. It really won't. And that will do more damage than not to the *idea* of it later on when the country's prepared to actually consider it.

I suppose that leaves Hillary. I'm not sure I like her, but the devil you know and all that. Not that I'm cynical. I can't vote for a Republican, not right now. I'm too burnt out at the moment. And I say this as someone that's been known to vote Republican in her home state for leaders, and not just because they were the only ones on the ballot.

I hate that I have to register as either Republican or Democrat in my state, too. Because I really don't base it on the party, but on the person who will help me the most. I'm liberal, somewhat, but I like to balance and not be too much of anything. It clouds my ability to see both sides of the issue.
Jan. 8th, 2008 03:27 am (UTC)
One of the things I really like about Obama is that he's very for the two parties working together and against bi-partisan politics, or at least that was the way he presented his views in Audacity of Hope.

And I really feel like experience is overrated sometimes. I was worried about that, too, but I feel like Obama's fresh mind and ideas might be good for the country right now.

Jan. 8th, 2008 03:41 am (UTC)
Perhaps I'm cynical, but I don't think that the two shall meet again. Because they're very, very opposed to each other. Not necessarily in politics, but in the screaming match. I don't foresee them working together to make the country better.

Experience can be overrated, however, I don't think it can be when dealing with the aftermath of a war. Rebuilding, making things better, requires knowledge and experience. We're in a bad place, in a lot of ways, due to arrogance and pissing contests. Because of that it's going to take someone with the knowledge of how to extract and leave us with self defense that will matter. I'm not thinking of military, either. I'm thinking of making sure our country won't have major collapses at the moment for the everyday man. We have to self-brace for the things to come after Bush's term(s). And we need someone strong enough to keep us from getting our butts handed back to us from the rest of the world in the process. Stepping stones are a start, but how can someone without experience know the right ones to place down?
Jan. 8th, 2008 04:17 am (UTC)
Stepping stones are a start, but how can someone without experience know the right ones to place down?

Hopefully with experienced advisors and cabinet behind him. But, I do see your point. I really wouldn't be terribly unhappy with Edwards or Clinton, I think they both make good candidates.

Really, things just can't get much worse than what they've been, right?
Jan. 9th, 2008 04:35 am (UTC)
But you can't always count on a green person to collect the right cabinet members, either. Which is why experience is a good thing. I don't necessarily want my choices, of the ones I see, I'm going for Clinton.

Don't say they can't get worse. We said that four years ago, remember?
Jan. 9th, 2008 04:39 am (UTC)
Eh, given the candidates in 2004 I think we were damn sure we knew it'd get worse.
Jan. 9th, 2008 04:49 am (UTC)
I don't know. I wasn't sure stupid could go that far down the line.
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